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, rachel. we know that they came here as the children were brought here. and they went through the work, and we're talking about hundreds of kids now, of matching the children with their parents. in the end you have 20 sets of parents who are left. and it is left to be told to them. and the governor was among those who were there to tell the parents that your children are not going to be coming home. and so i think it goes without saying the devastation that this community is feeling. the sense of -- i wouldn't even can say outrage yet. in my experience at these things, the outrage comes later. but the total feeling of hopelessness and senselessness that has overcome this community as they try to figure out why something like this could happen, rachel. >> chris, thinking about that initial response, thinking not just about what it must have been like to be personally connected to that, but to be a first responder coming upon that scene and needing to do the active shooter search that we know that law enforcement did once they determined that the shooter was dead, then assessing what had
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